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Post by John - Chicago Bulls on Sept 15, 2012 13:22:16 GMT -5
Bulls Receive ========================= Dion Waiters - (1) 4.5m (Total): 4.5 Mill Jimmer Fredette - (1) 2.5m (Total): 2.5 Mill Vince Carter - (1) 3m (Total) 3 Mill Fab Melo - (1) 3.5m (Total): 3.5 Mill Jazz Receive ========================== Tayshaun Prince Contract Length: 1 Years Salary: $6M ($6M a year) Player Option: No Team Option: Yes Trade Clause: No Marcus Thornton 1 years/ 6mil (6) Player Option - No Team Option - Yes Trade Clause - No Tim Duncan 1 years/ 7.5mil (7.5) Player Option - No Team Option - No Trade Clause - No DeJuan Blair 1yr/5m (5) Player Option - No Team Option - Yes Trade Clause - No The Chicago Bulls First Round Pick================================ - Utah Jazz (54m/65m) After Trade - (65m/65m) Bulls Salary Cap - 63.5m/65m After Trade - (52.5/65m) ================================= Bulls Explanation The Chicago Bulls are sending out BIG ASS veteran contracts, to gain the contracts of one of the future superstars of the NBA in Dion Waiters. The bulls also believe that the clearling of all this salary cap should set them up well for this upcoming offseason. in which there has HUGE potential possibly big name free agents such as LEBRON JAMES and TONY PARKER to come out into this class. With all that being said this is also going to be further contributing to the youth movement in chicago. the future HOF PF and the bulls needed to part ways in order for the bulls to be able to move on from the dissapointment of last seasons playoffs after the bulls were thrown out in a 1st round upset by the pacers. here in chicago we beleive that Darrell Walls, Calbert Seymour, Dion Waiters, Jimmer Fredette, and Fab Melo have MASSIVE potential to become something great.
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Post by dillon on Sept 15, 2012 13:28:49 GMT -5
I accept this. With Fab Melo, Vince Carter, and Dion Waiters both holding out from practice, and with Dion requesting a trade, I feel i have to do this. Not only can my team contend for the title this year, but with acquiring the Bulls 1st round pick, i now have 3 picks in the 1st round for next season.
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Post by John - Chicago Bulls on Sept 15, 2012 13:31:03 GMT -5
I accept this. With Fab Melo, Vince Carter, and Dion Waiters both holding out from practice, and with Dion requesting a trade, I feel i have to do this. Not only can my team contend for the title this year, but with acquiring the Bulls 1st round pick, i now have 3 picks in the 1st round for next season. nice doin business with ya
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Post by Dan on Sept 15, 2012 13:39:57 GMT -5
this trade seems a tad unbalanced. dejuan and duncan are both double double players and thornton's a machine who can only get better.
excluding waiters, every player the bulls would be receiving is a scrub.
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Post by dillon on Sept 15, 2012 13:45:32 GMT -5
FYI, to clear things up, even if Dion didn't request a trade, i would still do this. I'm filling up MAJOR holes in my SF and C position. Plus i have a chance to rebuild my team whenever KG and Timmy retire with the 3 1st round picks i have..
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Post by R.C Buford on Sept 15, 2012 13:49:43 GMT -5
mcnutt tryna tank to get #1 pick
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Post by Lynch on Sept 15, 2012 13:49:51 GMT -5
This trade is declined by me.
Reason:
Some biased shit from John aka Mr. Schwartz. He holds out Dion Waiters and says he is requesting a trade? What is the reason for the trade?
-CP3 trade made Hornets better team, as CP3 > Curry. If anything Dion would be more happier with that. - Dion Waiters has a decent contract, could be increased a couple of million but thats it. No need to request a trade when your team is clearly better.
John giving up Tayshaun Prince, Blair, Marcus Thornton and Tim Duncan for rookies. Dion Waiters is the only guy who will be a future star, Jimmer Freddette and Fab Melo will not be stars. Vince Carter is 35 years old too.
DeJuan Blair and Marcus Thornton have youth in them and will be stars. Compared to Melo and Freddette. He is also giving up Tim Duncan who still has good years left in him, he is 35, same as VC but Tim Duncan has more upside to him.
I believe McButt held out Waiters and requested a trade so he could tell Dillon to trade him instead so he could snag him cuz Dillon had no other choice, since Schwartz aka John said he wants a trade for good reason even.
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Post by John - Chicago Bulls on Sept 15, 2012 13:50:04 GMT -5
just to clear things up since dan said it seems to be a tad bit lopsided
Blair = 70, Duncan = 78, Thornton = 75, Prince = 73
Jimmer = 72, Fab Melo = 71, VC = 70ish, Dion = 79
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Post by Lynch on Sept 15, 2012 13:52:45 GMT -5
just to clear things up since dan said it seems to be a tad bit lopsided Blair = 70, Duncan = 78, Thornton = 75, Prince = 73 Jimmer = 72, Fab Melo = 71, VC = 70ish, Dion = 79 If you read what Gehad said, "KEEP IN MIND, if you see a player that is negative by alot that's OK. Thats because ROTATIONS are not set and lineups are all messed up. This is the updated ratings as of now." Blair is a 77 because he was -7 in the ratings. No doubt hes 75+ TD is high 70s if not low 80s.
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Post by John - Chicago Bulls on Sept 15, 2012 13:58:07 GMT -5
This trade is declined by me. Reason: Some biased shit from John aka Mr. Schwartz. He holds out Dion Waiters and says he is requesting a trade? What is the reason for the trade? -CP3 trade made Hornets better team, as CP3 > Curry. If anything Dion would be more happier with that. - Dion Waiters has a decent contract, could be increased a couple of million but thats it. No need to request a trade when your team is clearly better. John giving up Tayshaun Prince, Blair, Marcus Thornton and Tim Duncan for rookies. Dion Waiters is the only guy who will be a future star, Jimmer Freddette and Fab Melo will not be stars. Vince Carter is 35 years old too. DeJuan Blair and Marcus Thornton have youth in them and will be stars. Compared to Melo and Freddette. He is also giving up Tim Duncan who still has good years left in him, he is 35, same as VC but Tim Duncan has more upside to him. I believe McButt held out Waiters and requested a trade so he could tell Dillon to trade him instead so he could snag him cuz Dillon had no other choice, since Schwartz aka John said he wants a trade for good reason even. I based my holdouts on a few things, Money (Dion's contract is going to skyrocket after this season), The teams status (The Jazz tanked from 3rd to 3rd to last), and the players ratings. Now incase you didnt realize, Dion wasn't the only holdout on that list Vince Carter went down 8 points, i assumed it was because he was unhappy fab melo was just a toss in piece because dill needed a better center. dion waiters is a future superstar and im giving him marcus thorton who is in his mid 20's and can score RIGHT NOW. my reason for the trade is because i want to dump some contracts and to get younger. i would have been charing dillon upwards 10 mill for dion next season since his contract is expiring after this season. Now why the hell would i do that, If i really wanted to do that i would have targeted a guy that was a star now, more importantly i wouldnt do that because thats not really going to do me any good, because a team isnt going to trade their star for a holdout that is going to end eventually. dillon could have kept him but the trade i offered him is filling the holes NOW. your just butthurt because im not dealing you blair.
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Post by John - Chicago Bulls on Sept 15, 2012 14:08:02 GMT -5
just to clear things up since dan said it seems to be a tad bit lopsided Blair = 70, Duncan = 78, Thornton = 75, Prince = 73 Jimmer = 72, Fab Melo = 71, VC = 70ish, Dion = 79 If you read what Gehad said, "KEEP IN MIND, if you see a player that is negative by alot that's OK. Thats because ROTATIONS are not set and lineups are all messed up. This is the updated ratings as of now." Blair is a 77 because he was -7 in the ratings. No doubt hes 75+ TD is high 70s if not low 80s. TD is 78 on the dot If blair is a 77, that means that VC is a 74 so that just supports as to why this trade should go through..
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Post by Lynch on Sept 15, 2012 14:09:52 GMT -5
This trade is declined by me. Reason: Some biased shit from John aka Mr. Schwartz. He holds out Dion Waiters and says he is requesting a trade? What is the reason for the trade? -CP3 trade made Hornets better team, as CP3 > Curry. If anything Dion would be more happier with that. - Dion Waiters has a decent contract, could be increased a couple of million but thats it. No need to request a trade when your team is clearly better. John giving up Tayshaun Prince, Blair, Marcus Thornton and Tim Duncan for rookies. Dion Waiters is the only guy who will be a future star, Jimmer Freddette and Fab Melo will not be stars. Vince Carter is 35 years old too. DeJuan Blair and Marcus Thornton have youth in them and will be stars. Compared to Melo and Freddette. He is also giving up Tim Duncan who still has good years left in him, he is 35, same as VC but Tim Duncan has more upside to him. I believe McButt held out Waiters and requested a trade so he could tell Dillon to trade him instead so he could snag him cuz Dillon had no other choice, since Schwartz aka John said he wants a trade for good reason even. I based my holdouts on a few things, Money (Dion's contract is going to skyrocket after this season), The teams status (The Jazz tanked from 3rd to 3rd to last), and the players ratings. Now incase you didnt realize, Dion wasn't the only holdout on that list Vince Carter went down 8 points, i assumed it was because he was unhappy fab melo was just a toss in piece because dill needed a better center. dion waiters is a future superstar and im giving him marcus thorton who is in his mid 20's and can score RIGHT NOW. my reason for the trade is because i want to dump some contracts and to get younger. i would have been charing dillon upwards 10 mill for dion next season since his contract is expiring after this season. Now why the hell would i do that, If i really wanted to do that i would have targeted a guy that was a star now, more importantly i wouldnt do that because thats not really going to do me any good, because a team isnt going to trade their star for a holdout that is going to end eventually. dillon could have kept him but the trade i offered him is filling the holes NOW. your just butthurt because im not dealing you blair. 1. Money? Jazz have money, so if it was based off money, Dillon could of gave him a new contract 2. Team status? You do realize the owner before Dillon was Mitch, he would rarely come on. Also, his ownership was stripped and it was then a team ran by the league. 3. Player ratings make a player want a trade? I guess all players with high ratings are requesting trades then I guess. lol 4. If you read my previous post, you would realize that Gehad said the ratings are not final, as the big -# are due to the fact that rotations and shit are not set. 5. Butthurt? I was in the room with you guys and once you said I am making the thread, I knew Blair was in the deal but I still said McButt, after you are done lets talk trades. Lets break it down: Freddette and Melo are not going to be stars. Thornton and Blair will, like Dan said, Waiters is the only top guy you are receiving. Does not take a genius to know that this trade is unfair.
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Post by Lynch on Sept 15, 2012 14:10:39 GMT -5
If you read what Gehad said, "KEEP IN MIND, if you see a player that is negative by alot that's OK. Thats because ROTATIONS are not set and lineups are all messed up. This is the updated ratings as of now." Blair is a 77 because he was -7 in the ratings. No doubt hes 75+ TD is high 70s if not low 80s. TD is 78 on the dot If blair is a 77, that means that VC is a 74 so that just supports as to why this trade should go through.. not rly? td > vc blair > melo tayshaun prince > fredette dion = thornton
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Post by Jay on Sept 15, 2012 14:18:16 GMT -5
John trying to be slick! LOLOL
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Post by John - Chicago Bulls on Sept 15, 2012 14:18:17 GMT -5
VC may be retiring soon, But so are TD and Prince. and im getting guys who are only going up in rating if you looked at their last seasons rating btw if your going to critize me as an agent Knicks: - Blake Griffin (Holding out) - Paul George (Holding out) Explain to me how Blake griffin and Paul george are holding out when rico made the playoffs, pays them well, AND they have no overall change, HELL Blake Griffin actually went UP in rating.
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